Release ARAM Mayhem match data on API without win/loss stats

[AMDphreak]

It is impossible to review any of my match data via websites like op.gg.

I read that this information is removed to keep people trying new things in Mayhem and to prevent aggregator sites from publishing win/loss statistics to "solve" the meta. I do not care about the win/loss statistics. I just want to see the match history as record for people like me who play ARAM Mayhem almost exclusively, as well as sharing item builds with friends. With my solution, you have zero excuse not to publish match data. Even if aggregator sites publish popularity rankings, this doesn't correlate to win-rate.

Feature	Publish
Champions	✅
Usernames	✅
Augments	✅
Items	✅
Kills/Deaths/Multi-kill	✅
Damage/CC Stats	✅
Win/Loss	❌
Kill/Death Locations	❌
Replay	❌

[BlossomiShymae]

It has been stated in #1109 that match data for Mayhem being private is intended behavior. You'd be hard-pressed to convince Riot to share such match data with little-to-no player value. -w-

#1109 (comment)

[Fabsi23]

It won't be enough to hide win/loss since you can still get all the important info from the stats (healing done, damage to champions etc.). Instead they should keep everything besides the augments and item builds.

Can't track meta builds/meta augments when that info is missing. And apparantly that's the only reason we do not get the data (correct me if I'm wrong)

I am tracking my personal data for an activity chart (somewhat like the github commit activity chart) and that I can't get mayhem at all is very sad as that's my most played gamemode. Same for my friends that also wanted those statistics.

[AMDphreak]

It has been stated in #1109 that match data for Mayhem being private is intended behavior. You'd be hard-pressed to convince Riot to share such match data with little-to-no player value. -w-

#1109 (comment)

Which is why I submitted an issue. They have chosen incorrectly. And there is considerable player value. As evidenced by my issue here.

[AMDphreak]

It won't be enough to hide win/loss since you can still get all the important info from the stats (healing done, damage to champions etc.). Instead they should keep everything besides the augments and item builds.

Can't track meta builds/meta augments when that info is missing. And apparantly that's the only reason we do not get the data (correct me if I'm wrong)

I am tracking my personal data for an activity chart (somewhat like the github commit activity chart) and that I can't get mayhem at all is very sad as that's my most played gamemode. Same for my friends that also wanted those statistics.

Damage stats do not = win rate. The game is designed to be volatile, so the stats do not determine the outcome. And since we have no statistics available, you can't claim otherwise.

[geozukunft]

You would have to strip out multiple other flags as well and not as many games as you might believe end in games where the nexus is open on both sides. Most games end with a very decisive winner based on the stats.
And it isn't just purely about winrate either but also about the pickrate of Champions/Items/Augments.

And I do have legitimate access to all Mayhem games for the purposes of my website with a very strict set of rules agreed upon between the Game Modes team and me to not show any stats that they don't want to be public.

Besides that match-v5 or rather GAMHS (the system behind mv5) is not really made to just dynamically strip data from a stored match when giving the match out as the match data itself gets automatically ingested by the game servers. (There is a great AWS:invent talk from people at Riot about that on Youtube if you want to understand more how the system works)

[mkj777]

Id love to see ARAM Stats, Winrate for champs, KDA for champs, Winrate for the Player in ARAM, for how many games etc. Simply to create a clean profile tracker that has a dedicated ARAM Profile Page, thats the only "Player Value" i could bring here, thats how i got here. Would love to have that.

[AMDphreak]

Id love to see ARAM Stats, Winrate for champs, KDA for champs, Winrate for the Player in ARAM, for how many games etc. Simply to create a clean profile tracker that has a dedicated ARAM Profile Page, thats the only "Player Value" i could bring here, thats how i got here. Would love to have that.

This thread is for ARAM Mayhem not ARAM

[AMDphreak]

You would have to strip out multiple other flags as well and not as many games as you might believe end in games where the nexus is open on both sides. Most games end with a very decisive winner based on the stats. And it isn't just purely about winrate either but also about the pickrate of Champions/Items/Augments.

I review game stats every game and this is false. Frequently the team that deals and tanks less damage wins. As I said, the game is intentionally disproportionate. Killing a 20,000 HP enemy tank and then having your team with 2k HP apiece wiped out by a mage because someone broke formation will easily bias the damage stats toward the losing team.

And I do have legitimate access to all Mayhem games for the purposes of my website with a very strict set of rules agreed upon between the Game Modes team and me to not show any stats that they don't want to be public.

Uh huh, sure ya do, narc.

Besides that match-v5 or rather GAMHS (the system behind mv5) is not really made to just dynamically strip data from a stored match when giving the match out as the match data itself gets automatically ingested by the game servers. (There is a great AWS:invent talk from people at Riot about that on Youtube if you want to understand more how the system works)

Making excuses for poor programming ability, I see

[mkj777]

Id love to see ARAM Stats, Winrate for champs, KDA for champs, Winrate for the Player in ARAM, for how many games etc. Simply to create a clean profile tracker that has a dedicated ARAM Profile Page, thats the only "Player Value" i could bring here, thats how i got here. Would love to have that.

This thread is for ARAM Mayhem not ARAM

i meant ARAM Mayhem, ARAM Mayhem replaced ARAM mostly. ARAM stats exist, i know.