Session for 2024-12-20

[kirisky]

This is for session Dec 12th, 2024.

[kirisky]

Hi @nojaf! What should the zoomlink be?

[nojaf]

Hi @kirisky, I've added the Zoom link.
Could you expand the description a bit more?
Are we talking about backend web development?
Which framework will you be showing? For example, if it is Giraffe it would be helpful to mention this.

[kirisky]

I am gonna use the SAFE template as a scaffold and go through it from the building part like dotnet CLI, .fsproj (.csproj) file, FAKE, Nuget and Paket, then the testing, database, formatter and serialization parts. Might include frontend parts like Fable and Elmish as well.

It delivers two goals:

1. Understand some basic knowledge of F#.

   • Introduction of dotnet CLI
   • The dependence relationship between files. F# is a little bit different from Java or C# for beginners, it is more similar to C/C++ and OCaml.
   • The relationship between tools. For example, newcomers might want to know the difference between Fake and .fsproj, Paket and the Nuget. When I start my F# project, which building tool should I use? dotnet CLI? Fake? When should I use FAKE rather than MSBuild? Saturn? Giraffe? Suave? It is probably a little bit confusing to beginners.

   When starting to use F# for a little web project, I guess people have to check docs, google it or ask AIs about that. And probably be struggling with choosing it.

   Even though there are templates, when I create a new project with the SAFE template, SAFEr or any other template, I still feel lost, even though I've already written some code in F#.

2. Recommend a web stack for beginners
   After the above introduction, I will modify the SAFE-Store project with the stack I choose. It can demonstrate how to deploy the project.

   This can demonstrate how to customize a template / existing project with your own stack.

This is the structure for the session. But it seems the idea overlaps a little bit with Vagif's session, not sure if it's still had any values for beginners.

If you would think this is not necessary anymore, I could choose a new one. Just let me know what you think.

[nojaf]

We need to find a new date for this.

[nojaf]

I am gonna use the SAFE template as a scaffold and go through it from building part like dotnet CLI, .fsproj (.csproj) file, FAKE, Nuget and Paket, then testing, database, formatted and serialization parts. Might include frontend part like Fable and Elmish part as well.

That is great, please incorporate that in the session description.