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Trait Object Lifetime Defaults

Primer & Definitions

You could read this section in the Reference but it has several issues (see rust-lang/reference#1407). Here's a small explainer by me that only mentions the parts relevant to this PR:

Basically, given dyn Trait (≠ dyn Trait + '_) we want to deduce its trait object lifetime bound from context without relying on normal region inference as we might not be in a body1. The "context" means the closest – what I call — (eligible) container C<X0, …, Xn> that wraps this trait object type. A container is to be understood as a use site of a "parametrized definition" (more general than type constructors). Currently eligible are ADTs, type aliases, traits and enum variants.

So if we have C<dyn Trait> (e.g., &'r dyn Trait or Struct<'r, dyn Trait>), D<C<dyn Trait>> or C<N<dyn Trait>> (e.g., Struct<'r, (dyn Trait,)>), we use the explicit2 outlives-bounds on the corresponding type parameter of C to determine the trait object lifetime bound. Here, C & D denote (eligible) containers and N denotes a generic type that is not an eligible container. E.g., given struct Struct<'a, T: 'a + ?Sized>(…);, we elaborate Struct<'r, dyn Trait> to Struct<'r, dyn Trait + 'r>.

Finally, we call lifetime bounds used as the default for constituent trait object types of an eligible container C the trait object lifetime defaults (induced by C) which may be shadowed by inner containers.

Changes Made

  1. Make resolved associated type paths / projections eligible containers.
    • <Y0 as TraitRef<X0, …, Xn>>::AssocTy<Y1, …, Ym> now induces trait object lifetime defaults for constituents Y0 to Ym (TraitRef is considered a separate container, see also list item (2)).
    • Notably, for the self type Y0 of (resolved) projections we now look at the bounds on the Self type param of the relevant trait (e.g., given trait Outer<'a>: 'a { type Proj; } or trait Outer<'a> where Self: 'a { type Proj; } we elaborate <dyn Inner as Outer<'r>>::Proj to <dyn Inner + 'r as Outer<'r>>::Proj).
  2. In type-relative paths Y0::Name<Y1, …, Ym> consider the trait object lifetime default indeterminate
    • Meaning if we're in an "item context" / "item signature" / "non-body" (& the trait object type isn't bounded by any outlives-bounds which would take precedence over the default) we will reject any implicit trait object lifetime bounds that would take on that default
    • Reason: Limitations of the current implementation which can't be easily overcome
      • RBV (which resolves trait object lifetime defaults by recursing into the local crate "in one sitting") would require the resolution of type-relative paths in order to look up the generics but these paths are only resolved in HIR ty lowering (that can selectively lower local items) which depends on the results of RBV (cyclic dependency!)
      • While one might be able to resolve type-relative paths in RBV in an ad-hoc fashion, it would require a lot of duplication with HIR ty lowering and its impl would be very brittle (RTN does something like that in RBV but we require a more sophisticated resolver)
      • I did attempt that but it got too gnarly and brittle and would've likely been incomplete anyway
      • See also this GH thread
      • See also #t-types/meetings > 2025-09-16 weekly @ 💬
    • This should still be maximally forward compatible and allow us to implement the desired behavior in the future.
  3. Fixes trait object lifetime defaults inside trait refs TraitRef<X0, …, Xn> (this fell out from the previous changes). They used to be completely broken due to a nasty off-by-one error for not accounting for the implicit Self type param of traits which lead to cases like
    • Outer<'r, dyn Inner> (with trait Outer<'a, T: 'a + ?Sized> {}) getting rejected as indeterminate (it tries to access a lifetime at index 1 instead 0) (playground)
    • Outer<'r, 's, dyn Inner> (with trait Outer<'a, 'b, T: 'a + ?Sized> {}) elaborating dyn Inner to dyn Inner + 's instead of dyn Inner + 'r(!) (playground)
  4. In associated type binding TraitRef<AssocTy<X0, …, Xn> = Y> consider the trait object lifetime default indeterminate (in X0, …, Xn and Y) if X0, …, Xn contains any lifetime arguments.
    • Meaning if we're in an item context (& the trait object type isn't otherwise bounded) we will reject any implicit trait object lifetime bounds that would take on that default
    • This reserves us the right to (1) take into account the item bounds of AssocTy in the future when computing the default for Y (2) take into account the parameter bounds of AssocTy in the future when computing the defaults for X0, …, Xn.
    • This extends a preexisting hack that – given TraitRef<X0, …, Xn, AssocTy<Y0, …, Ym> = Z> – treats the default indeterminate in Y0, …, Ym and Z if X0, …, Xn contains any lifetime arguments.
    • Rephrased, this hack / reservation previously didn't account for GAT args, only trait ref args, which is insufficient
    • See also this GH comment of mine

Motivation

Both trait object lifetime default RFCs (599 and 1156) never explicitly specify what constitutes a — what I call — (eligible) container but it only makes sense to include anything that can be parametrized by generics and can be mentioned in places where we don't perform full region inference … like associated types. So it's only consistent to make this change.

Breakages

These changes are theoretically breaking because they can lead to different trait object lifetime bounds getting deduced compared to main which is obviously user observable. Moreover, we're now explicitly rejecting implicit trait object lifetime bounds inside type-relative paths (excl. the self type) and on the RHS of assoc type bindings if the assoc type has lifetime params.

However, the latest crater run found 0 non-spurious regressions (see here and here).

Examples (5)
trait Outer<'a> { type Ty<T: ?Sized + 'a>; }
impl<'a> Outer<'a> for () { type Ty<T: ?Sized + 'a> = &'a T; }
trait Inner {}

fn f<'r>(x: <() as Outer<'r>>::Ty<dyn Inner>) { // now `dyn Inner + 'r` instead of `dyn Inner + 'static`
    let _: <() as Outer<'r>>::Ty<dyn Inner + 'static> = x; // => error: lifetime may not live long enough (`'r` must outlive `'static'`)
}
trait Outer { type Ty; }
trait Inner {}

impl<'a> Outer for dyn Inner + 'a { type Ty = &'a (); }

fn f<'r>(x: *mut &'r <dyn Inner as Outer>::Ty) { // now `dyn Inner + 'static` (due to lack of bounds on `Outer`) instead of `dyn Inner + 'r` (since the assoc ty now shadows the default induced by the ref ty ctor `&`)
    let _: *mut &'r <dyn Inner + 'r as Outer>::Ty = x; // => error: lifetime may not live long enough (`'r` must outlive `'static`)
}
trait Outer { type Ty<'a, T: 'a + ?Sized>; }
trait Inner {}

fn f<'r, T: Outer>(x: T::Ty<'r, dyn Inner>) {} // => error: indeterminate (reservation)
trait Outer { type Ty<'a>: ?Sized/* + 'a*/; }
trait Inner {}

fn f<'r>(_: impl Outer<Ty<'r> = dyn Inner>) {} // => error: indeterminate (reservation)
trait Outer { type Ty<'a, T: ?Sized + 'a>; }
trait Inner {}

fn f<'r>(_: impl Outer<Ty<'r, dyn Inner> = ()>) {} // => error: indeterminate (reservation)

Fixes #115379.
Fixes #141997.

Footnotes

  1. If we are in a body we do use to normal region inference as a fallback.

  2. Indeed, we don't consider implied bounds (inferred outlives-bounds).

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[crater] Properly deduce the object lifetime default in GAT paths

Fixes rust-lang#115379.

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[CRATER] Crater Rollup

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**What is a crater rollup?** It's simply a crater job that is run on all of the containing PRs *together*, and then we can set the crates list for each of these jobs to just the failures after it's done. It should cut out on the bulk of "normal" crates that do nothing and simply just take time to build.

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[CRATER] Crater Rollup

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* rust-lang#128784
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* rust-lang#129422
* rust-lang#129543
* rust-lang#129604

**What is a crater rollup?** It's simply a crater job that is run on all of the containing PRs *together*, and then we can set the crates list for each of these jobs to just the failures after it's done. It should cut out on the bulk of "normal" crates that do nothing and simply just take time to build.

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fmease commented Feb 4, 2026

Alright, this is now finally ready for a rereview wrt. both implementation and pFCP'ed semantic changes! Changes since last comment of mine:

  1. I've extended a preexisting 'hack' / reservation concerning assoc ty bindings to properly account for GATs, too. This means more theoretical breakages. Please see bullet point (4) in the PR description for technical details. Crater came back clean. The impl is found in the last commit (ae8c0a5)
  2. I've added a lot more tests and improved / fleshed out the preexisting ones
  3. I've heavily improved the source code comments I had added
  4. I've rewritten several parts of the PR description to be more informative & legible
  5. I've added 5 example breakages to the PR description (in a collapsed section)

@lcnr, @BoxyUwU, I'd be super happy if you both could take a look esp. in regards to the (latest version of the) pFCP'ed semantic changes since I'd love it if this can finally go into FCP :D Thanks a lot in advance :)

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…ir own args (excl. self ty)

This automatically fixes trait object lifetime defaulting for trait refs,
too. These used to be broken because the index calculation for going from
middle generic args back to HIR ones didn't take into account the
implicit self ty param present on traits.

Moreover, in item signatures reject hidden trait object lifetime bounds
inside type-relative paths (excl. the self ty) on grounds of the default
being indeterminate.
* print `Empty` as it's called in code, otherwise it's unnecessarily confusing
* go through the middle::ty Generics instead of the HIR ones, so we can dump the
  default for the implicit `Self` type parameter of traits, too
* allow the attribute on more targets (it used to be allowed anywhere for the
  longest time but someone must've incorrectly restricted it during the
  migration to the new attribute parsing API)
…ntiated assoc ty bindings

Namely, on the RHS and in the args of the bindings.
@oli-obk oli-obk assigned BoxyUwU and lcnr and unassigned oli-obk Feb 4, 2026
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